LightScribe Forum : Open Topic - LS Feedback : Lightscribe software for people who use multiple computers?
I tried to download the Lightscribe software (specifically the Linux version) but the license says I can install only one copy of the software.

I have specifically put the Lightscribe drive into a USB enclosure so that I can use it on any computer, including a laptop.

However, the software license does not allow that, nor would it allow using multiple drives in multiple computers.

I am very disappointed with this technology.

]]> Fri, 27 Feb 2009 16:38:36 GMT Hi MS  !

The EULA looks like standard boiler plate legalese written by a lawyer!

It refers to "Networking the software", but you're Networking the DRIVE!

It refers to more than one computer, but each computer is technically licensed individually!

As I look at it, you are able to put the LSS and the LS TL on each machine but not on a server!

I have a drive built in to my Notebook and on built in to my printer.

I DON'T conceder myself in violation of the EULA.

AND, what about DUPLICATOR?!?!?!


]]> Fri, 27 Feb 2009 18:26:00 GMT
It clearly states one copy, though. So it means one copy until it is explicitly stated that the downloaded software is multilicensed or the license is updated to make sense.

]]> Mon, 02 Mar 2009 12:32:36 GMT Hello again MS  !

I still that it is only trying to say that each DOWNLOAD constitutes ONE license for that system only.

I think they are only implying that the SINGLE download COPIED from ONE system to ANOTHER is not allowed.


]]> Mon, 02 Mar 2009 13:09:57 GMT
What is not explicitly written cannot be implied, and the wording does not even suggest that a download is somehow related to license.

]]> Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:39:20 GMT Hello again MS !

YES it is legalese, vague enough to cover ANYTHING ANY WHICH WAY IT CAN!

My son-in-law is a lawyer, so I'll run it by him.

I think they're trying to make people doubt!

I still think you can put the software on as many INDIVIDUAL systems you want.  You just CANNOT put it on a SERVER and give multiple users access to ONE COPY of the software.

That's what I'm trying to say!  I don't think any court would say they're wrong on that point!

EDITED: 11:30 EST

I just did a little research and found out that LINUX is the only type of system that has a license.

Now I'm sure that their aim is LINUX SERVERS.

You don't even see anything about licensing for PCs.

 


]]> Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:57:45 GMT     Your comments are a bit confusing, all of your complaints are about  misinterpretation of the EULA not the technology.
When in fact it is a requirement of drives (drives not drive) to work in a computer. Check the SureThing, LaCie and Droppix software packages all support multiple drives per computer and are licensed vendors according to the web iste.


]]> Tue, 03 Mar 2009 21:08:26 GMT
No, it's all the other comments that are confusing.


The LSS license explicitly says I can use one copy of the software.

http://www.lightscribe.com/downloadSection/linux/index.aspx?id=814

This page say that I need the LSS for any labeling software to work

http://www.lightscribe.com/gettingstarted/index.aspx?id=87

So there is no alternative to the software. It's irreplaceable part of the technology. It's licensing terms prevent me from using the technology on multiple computers. It is useless as a whole.

]]> Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:21:40 GMT Hi MS !

It seems like you just don't want to listen to Reggie and me!

The only recommendation I can make is:

  1. In writing, start a dialog directly with the folks in LightScribe/HP;
  2. Describe in detail what you want to do;
  3. Ask specifically if they allow it or will allow it; and
  4. Get it in writing.

That's all I can suggest!

 


]]> Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:53:19 GMT
You are basically saying to ignore the license. I do not think that is a good advice.

Thanks for the suggestion about contacting HP, though.

There is no contact information on the LightScribe site other than this forum but HP is listed among the hardware manufacturers, and they are the company who produced the LSS and put together the license.

]]> Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:20:48 GMT Hi MS!

These are HP LightScribe Links you may be able to use.

http://h71036.www7.hp.com/hho/cache/315116-0-0-225-121.html?jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN

http://search.hp.com/query.html?charset=iso-8859-1&lk=1&la=en&nh=10&rf=0&qp=segment%3AHho&qs=&h_audience=hho&hps=Home+%26+Home+Office+section+only&hpr=http%3A%2F%2Fwelcome.hp.com%2Fcountry%2Fus%2Fen%2Fsolutions%2Fhome_homeoffice.html&h_audiencerestrict=&hpvc=contextual&hph=&hpo=hphqglobal%2Chphqna%2Chphqhhomktg&hpn=Return+to+Home+%26+Home+Office+section&hpa=http%3A%2F%2Fwelcome.hp.com%2Fcountry%2Fus%2Fen%2Fcontact_us.html&uf=1&st=1&qt=LightScribe+Linux+Licensing&hpl=0


]]> Thu, 05 Mar 2009 18:48:53 GMT
Thanks for the HP links.

However, the HP site is not helpful regarding this problem.

The license search returns links about licensing of completely unrelated products.

The lightscribe page on HP site links back to lightscribe.com.

As suggested earlier in this thread I tried to download the LSS from LaCie.

They do not have any license posted on the web but a license is packages with the LSS.

It says clearly that you cannot install it on more than one computer.

Basically HP has no intention to make the software portable, they build it on their system and if it happens to run on your PCs you can run it on one of them. And they can revoke your right to do so at a whim.

No wonder that LightScribe is note very widespread given these licensing terms. Suppose you wanted to use lightscribe in a shop that burns and labels CDs .. ugh.


HP grants Customer a worldwide, non-exclusive license to use the software on any one computer. Customer may not network the software or otherwise use it on more than one computer. Customer may make copies or adaptations of the software (a) for archival purposes or (b) when copying or adaptation is an essential step in the use of the software with a computer so long as the copies and adaptations are used in no other manner

f) HP may terminate Customer's license to Use the Software upon notice for failure to comply with any applicable Software license terms or at any time for any reason whatsoever. Immediately upon termination, all copies of the Software will be destroyed or returned to HP. Customer shall remove, destroy or return to HP all copies of the Software that are merged into adaptations, except for individual pieces of data in Customer's database. With HP's prior written consent, one copy of the Software may be retained subsequent to termination for archival purposes.

g) The Software may be only compatible with certain hardware platforms and/or operating systems. Customer acknowledges and agrees that Customer has the sole responsibility to independently obtain and independently license and/or acquire the system requirements.



]]> Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:50:31 GMT MS wrote:
Customer may not network the software or otherwise use it on more than one computer.
This was what I was getting at.
You would have to install the software on a SERVER.
 
Also, I don't understand how the licensing of the SDK would work on a network and with a shared drive?
 

]]> Wed, 11 Mar 2009 18:51:45 GMT
It means you can use it on one computer that is not a server.

I would guess that storing the software on a network drive is acceptable as long as you use it only on a single computer. But who knows.

]]> Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:47:47 GMT
]]> Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:48:59 GMT Hi MS !

Having been in the IT Business for over 35 years, most software vendors issue Single Computer Con-current User Licenses.

They usually specify that only one copy of their software may be installed on one computer and that a limited number of con-current (simultaneous) users may use it at a time.

The companies I worked for had multiple meetings to be sure they could buy a copy for different systems they wanted to build.

The crux of the matter centered not on how many systems were built but on the number of users on those systems would want to use the software at the same time.

The end result were that we could put the software on as many systems we wanted to but these systems were viewed as servers and only a limited number of users could log on and try to run the software at the same time on that system.

We could buy as many copies of the software as we needed, but each system also had to have a con-current users license that checked that only a limited number of instances could be operating at one time.

I tried to run two instances of the Template Labeler (like can be done with MS Notepad) and it would not let me.  It simply said another copy was already running and exited.

Paint.NET (one of the tools I use to develop Custom Template) just uses the same copy that was already running and I lose what I was originally was working on.

 


]]> Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:03:50 GMT MS wrote:
Helo

You are basically saying to ignore the license. I do not think that is a good advice.

Thanks for the suggestion about contacting HP, though.

There is no contact information on the LightScribe site other than this forum but HP is listed among the hardware manufacturers, and they are the company who produced the LSS and put together the license.
 
Who reads the terms and conditons and the End User License Agreement (EULA) everytime they install software?
no point denying it, we all do it. i admit to clicking next, next, agree, next, install.

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