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cimofj2
Posted: Sunday, January 4, 2009 8:53 AM
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HI Folks   !!!

I was just doing a little browsing and came across a website that says it sells Blu-ray Disc, Blu-ray Media.

I've seen some posts expressing some interest.

I haven't gone very far browsing, but thought I should post this link

http://www.meritline.com/blu-ray-dvd-media-discs.html

Hope it helps.

 


Gator Systems
Posted: Friday, June 5, 2009 8:05 AM
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Does anyone have an update to this thread?

I have a LG GGW-H20L Blu-ray writer and I have not been able to find Blu-ray lightscribe disks from anyone. The source listed above seems to be a dead end for Blu-ray lightscribe disks.

 

I contacted Aleratec and Miguel Covarrubias from ALeratec responded with this quote, "Unfortunately there is no Blu-ray LightScribe media as of yet and no ETA has been set that I am aware of".

I use Aleratec media almost exclusively and I know them to be reputable as far as I am concerned with DVD and CD media. So this statement was somewhat startling and disturbing.

 

In my opinion, this does not bode well for Lightscribe. I see Wal-mart dropping supply and after six months of second generation Blu-ray writers on the market we still do not see any Blu-ray media available.

 

I can see some hesitation because of the Sony Blu-ray / HD-DVD battle, but that is no excuse according to public persception.  One other point of bafflement is that Blu-ray is basically a different laser DVD. Yes the underlying tech may be different, but the top side should remain the same as far as lightscribe is concerned, so I ask what the hangup is if DVD-R lightscribe has been out for more than a year. 

 

lightscribe needs to pick up the pace a bit in both public consciousness saturation and product availability if it is not to be left behind as a novelty technology that came and went, Like the LS-120 drives and others past.

 


cimofj2
Posted: Friday, June 5, 2009 8:26 AM
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I just checked, and the link above isn't valid anymore.

I came up with two more possibles:


http://www1.bottomdollar.com/p__Lite_On_LITE_ON_iHES206_6x_Blu_ray_Drive_with_LightScribe_Double_layer_BD_ROM_DVD_R_RW_6x_BD_16x_8x_DVD_Serial_ATA_Internal,__717692359/search=blu%20ray%20lightscribe/st=query


http://www.become.com/shop?refdisa=ysm&qraw=lightscribe+blu+ray+discs&lddisa=1006356361&adid=53529624011&nofilter=&reab=100&q=lightscribe+blu-ray+disc&utm_campaign=become&utm_source=yahoo&utm_medium=sem2&utm_term=lightscribe+blu-ray+disc&qet

 


cimofj2
Posted: Friday, June 5, 2009 8:35 AM
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I just found out that the first one is only for drives.

The second one shows Media, and I'll be checking further.


Gator Systems
Posted: Friday, June 5, 2009 8:45 AM
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Some clarification here and thanks for the input by the OP.

Unfortunately all links lead to sites that do not have the actual Blu-ray lightscribe media I am looking for.

I see a big problem with this as the first site is giving me the standard issue problem of, everything is advertised and hyped as "We have Blu-ray" but the actual product for sale tends to be either standard DVD-R and/or +R Lightscribe or if your really lucky an actual standard non-lightscribe Blu-ray Blu-R product.

In either case, you're no closer to actually getting any Blu-ray media in lightscribe. My research leads me to beleive that there just is not any out there at this time.

The drives seem to be plentlyful from both LG and Lite-On though 

 

 


cimofj2
Posted: Friday, June 5, 2009 8:50 AM
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I'm confused!

The second one shows Blu-ray on the first page, but when I go to the detail pages, they don't say anything about the disks being Blu-ray.

I noticed that all the pages show the disks to be DVD+R, even on the first page where they say they're referred to as "Verbatim corporation Blu-Ray Discs DVD DVD+R,LIGHTSCRIBE,16X 

LightScribe DVD+R, 16X, 4.7GB, 30/PK"?????
 

Gator Systems
Posted: Friday, June 5, 2009 8:59 AM
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O.P.,

Don't be confused, this is just disceptive advertising by websites that are not maintained properly.  


Gator Systems
Posted: Monday, June 8, 2009 3:27 PM
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I believe I found an answer to the issue of why after a year of available burners lighscribe has not come out on Blu-ray! In another posting cimofj2 wrote:

The Hub Area will never be a label-able area.  On LS Disks it contains marks for Detection of media; Positioning for start of label; and Timing for writing the label.

In the drive, next to the hub, there is a LS Sensor (Not to be confused with the Read/Write Head which can move).  Underline added for emphasis

 I took a regular DVD movie and compared it with a LS DVD-R Ver 1.2. The area available for the Lightscribe positioning encoding is the same. This is important as cimofj2 notes this area is mandatory for the LS sensor to read position information correctly and that the sensor is in a fixed position.

All of this has negative effects on blu-ray disks. On an LG Blu-ray (BD-RE) disk that came with my LG burner, the encoding area that a LS Blu-ray disk might be able to use is smaller than a regular DVD. The Blu-ray disk I have applies Ink all the way to the spindle hub area of the disk and appears to use a small outer band of LS area on a normal DVD to encode a bar code format for some purpose. The inner area that Light scribe would use is inked, so there appears to be no usable area for LS encoding.

So there is a high probability that we will not see Lighscribe in Blu-ray due to design limitations of the Blu-ray disk architecture as set forth by Sony, A “real notable” friend to innovative third parties!  Then again if the lightscribe encoding does not need to be totally transparent but simply reflective we may be able to have something that only needs a software update to read.


Gator Systems
Posted: Friday, June 12, 2009 6:38 AM
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Well more bad news, both Aleratec and Verbatim have confirmed to me today that their is no immediate plans to release Lightscribe on blu-ray and no planned schedule to do so as of yet!

If anyone from HP is listening, I'd start making phone call's!


Laurent
Posted: Thursday, June 18, 2009 11:47 PM
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Good day everyone.

I'm about to buy a BD writer to burn my hi def home made movies so I had a look around and thought I'd look for a BD writer with LS technology, having seen before howmuch nicer it is that a marker handwritten title

It seems strange that BD media with LightScribe isn't being launched since there are some BD drives with lightscribe already:
http://ae.lge.com/products/model/detail/be06lu10.jhtml

Or am I missing something?

cimofj2
Posted: Friday, June 19, 2009 3:58 AM
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Hi Laurent !

Sorry , while drives are plentiful media is non-existent.  There may NEVER be any because of the way Blu-ray and LightScribe Disks are made.

If you read Gator Systems' post of Monday, June 08, 2009 3:27 PM above, you'll see a good description of what the problem is.